Do investment fees, such as those for mutual funds, really matter? Is there that big of a difference between 0.04% and 0.75% or 1.5%?
The short answer is yes!
The long answer is below...
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First, do you understand the basics of the stock market such as stocks, bonds, mutual funds, active management versus passive index funds, and ETFs? If so, skip to main content. If not, keep reading!
Okay so now that you have an overview of these types of investments, let’s talk about the fund expenses.
There are two main types of mutual fund expenses:
Annual fund operating expenses – These are ongoing fees toward the cost of paying managers, accountants, legal fees, marketing and the like. When looking at a fund, this is called an expense ratio.
Shareholder fees – These are sales commissions and other one-time costs when you buy or sell mutual fund shares. These include Sales Loads such as front loads or front-end loads (a fee when you buy it) and deferred sales charges, back load, or back-end load (a fee when you sell it), redemption fees, exchange fees, account fees, and purchase fees.
The first example is for the investment fees charged by a mutual fund called Alger Emerging Markets A (ticker symbol AAEMX). When you look it up on www.Morningstar.com (a great place to research funds and stocks), you’ll see there’s a front load of 5.25% and expense ratio of 1.55%.
So when you initially make the purchase, right off the bat over 5% of your investment goes away to fees, which means you have less money to grow in the first place. Then you’ll pay an ongoing fee of 1.55% on your invested money, each year.
Compare that to the Vanguard Total US Stock Market Index fund, which doesn’t have a front load fee, and charges 0.04% annually.
To me, these expense ratio examples make it incredibly clear as to why we should focus our investing life on long-term investments that carry very low fees, such as index funds or index ETFs, and saving money on investment fees.
A: Well, just like you can’t know the future, neither can fund managers. So they’re doing their best to guess what will happen, and they know a lot about the market, but they can’t guarantee anything, because they can’t see the future.
A: No, actually! Data shows that actively managed funds, in the long run, almost NEVER beat the index!!! For instance, check out this article that pulled data from Standard & Poor’s Indices Versus Active Funds Scorecard, and found that among mutual funds investing in large companies, 81% failed to beat their index for 3 years, and 92% after 15 years! Would you knowingly give your hard-earned money to a friend to invest for you if that friend had a track record of doing worse than the stock market 4 out of 5 times? And would you pay your friend for the luxury of having them give you less returns than you could have gotten otherwise? Because I certainly wouldn’t. And the one guarantee from investing in mutual funds, is that you’ll pay the investment fees, which is typically between 0.3% and 3%.
A: Well, just as compound interest makes your money grow exponentially over time, the lost growth in your investments also compounds over time (this is assuming that your particular mutual fund performs the same as the index fund before fees).
For instance, check out the pie charts below. If you were to start with $1,000 and add $6,000 each year to your investments, with a 9% return, after 40 years you would have just over 2 million dollars.
But if your return gets reduced, even by just a little, due to the investment fees, you can start to lose a lot of your potential money! For instance, with a 2% expense ratio, effectively reducing your return from 9% to 7%, you would lose 41% of the money you could have had! From just a 2% expense ratio! With a 1% expense ratio, you would lose 23%, and even with a 0.35% expense ratio you would lose almost 9% of what you could have had!
A: In the same article linked above, they examined what happened when pension funds hired new managers. They chose managers who beat the index for the past 3 years, yet found that those same managers could not replicate that performance after being hired.
Q: Okay, so what about the ones who have beat it for the last 10 years?
A: Here’s where I think people should probably just come to their own conclusions.
There are some fund managers who will beat the market year after year after year.
Does that guarantee that they’ll continue? No, of course not.
Is it worth it, to you, to invest in only those specific funds, that have low fees and that have a long track record of beating the rest of the market?
That’s going to be a very individual answer. I have chosen not to, because there are a variety of reasons why I think each year it can be harder for them to continue to beat the market. I also don’t like the idea of “buying high”, which is essentially what you do when you decide to invest in a mutual fund that is already doing really well. But I also think that, as long as you aren’t putting everything into that fund, you can decide what to do with your money. Just remember that the only guarantee is that you’ll pay that expense ratio. Hindsight will be 20/20, but we can never know for sure which fund managers will definitely beat the index (by enough to give you a higher return after their expenses). So at least if you choose to go this route, it might be best to only do so with a smaller portion of your invested money, and try to stick with funds with low expense ratios/investment fees. Also, it would be ideal to really understand the fund manager or managers, and what they’re investing in.
So if managed funds is the way you want to go, you’ll need to educate yourself on the stock market in much more detail than otherwise needed! Note too, that if you are investing more money (or over a longer time period), the fees will have a larger impact.
So if you are a high earner like a physician, the impact of fees can be huge. Check out this great article about the impact fees could have on physicians investments and consequently retirement situations: Click here to read
One final note: If you have been investing within managed mutual funds with high fees and wonder if you should switch your money, know that just as compound interest/growth makes a bigger difference over a longer time horizon, the same with fees. So if you’ve been investing in non-ideal funds for 10 years, but still have 10, 30, or even 50 years left in your investing life, go ahead and make that switch! You may still save a ton of money over time! [See the below images to see why!]
Are you ready to start investing in index funds or index ETFs? Check out my blog post that walks you through some of the biggest questions you’ll need to answer to go ahead and open something like an IRA and start investing! If you know you need more help than a blog post, consider my Level Up Your Finances course. You are also welcome to reach out to me on Instagram @intentionalmoneylife.
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